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hel on earth's avatar

Finally watched it so got to read this :')

Toootally agree with everything you've said. It's not often a film has me doing further reading but you've reminded me of some interesting theories I found which I know you'll find fascinatinggg.

The cat thing - somebody said that Freaky Nikki is modeling herself on Bear's cat, because he loved it, and she's trying to find ways to make him love her too. Eg bringing him dead things (as you said) and also apparently there's kibble in her poop when she's waiting for him to come home(??)

Sarah - it's clear that she really likes Bear from the off, and her feelings grow throughout the film. So, Nikki is forced to up the ante in order to *still* be the one who loves him most in the world. Not only is Sarah a straightforward rival for Bear's love, the fact that she exists puts Nikki under a considerably larger amount of strain because according to the wish, she has to love him more than Sarah does.

The poem - written by Real Nikki, and is considered to be one of her breakthrough moments. It's about Hansel and Gretel because she actually sees him as a brother figure. "I knew he would not leave this place. He would relent and choose to be inside me, like he had many nights before," is so much more unsettling coming from Real Nikki.

Also saw a really good Substack about how the whole thing is an allegory for AI agreeing with everything you say and trying to replace your real life relationships, sometimes with deadly consequences, and you've touched on that too.

As you said, it's not often a film gets under my skin to this degree. V good/v bad stuff.

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Hello, I like your analysis of the movie. I completely understand you perspective of the connection between Bear’s actions and the recent online objectification of women to be mere “pleasure objects” by disgruntled men. But I believe that there is also a deeper message at play here and not what the authors intended. I personally view the story as a critique of the modern perspective on gender roles and gendered interaction, where men and women interact on a frequent and highly integrated fashion. The fact is the movie sets up Bear and Nikki’s monstrous “relationship” is one that is plagued by insecurity, potentially one-sided love and unclear boundaries between sexes. What I’m trying to say is that if people like Bear or any other person of the cast were upfront and clear about their feelings, things would not have progressed the way they did. But inevitably and realistically, no one is willing to out themselves and confess their love, which is human. Which is why interactions between the sexes should be treated as fundamentally different from same sex interactions (barring homosexual relationships which is another story and a minority case). Also, when they weaponized normality by playing “vibe” orchestrations and 2020s-esque soft pop tunes, I took it as a critique of modern society where people casually interact with the opposite gender but do not consider long term consequences from giving into infatuation.

A side note is Ian as well, who really seems like a metaphor for the shallow relationships we have today, which are based on jokes and laughs but break down under real problems and stress(him instinctively treating Bear’s problem as a joke + wishing for money as the examples here)

Bottom line, I took the movie as a critique of the fast and loose ways we view relationships of people we are attracted to, as well as the superficiality of relationships based around drama and dopamine chasing, I know this is probably not a mainstream view so I would like to know what you think and if you agree/disagree. I also wrote this pretty impromptu so forgive the stuff that seems worded wierdly.

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