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Dan Baird's avatar

I've somewhat followed the stuff about Gary Barlow's son, since I'm not in the UK I probably haven't seen the brunt of memes.

I'd probably make the argument that there is a difference in laughing at somebody (for any reason) and laughing with somebody. I think that some jokes need to receive consent when they're personal. If he'd made a joke about his own height and found the whole thing hilarious, then it's ok.

Plus there's the whole idea of punching up and punching down. Maybe people think they are punching up when he's the son of a celeb, but really they're punching down as (as far as I know) the son hasn't attempted to be in the public eye or anything of that nature. Punching up is generally acceptable, but punching down isn't.

I think the simple matter of being laughed at is triggering for people, which has probably helped create the backlash. But I completely agree that many people are trying to cancel others (more generally) for not being perfect when the idea of anybody being perfect is ridiculous.

I'm always of the mind that when anybody is piled into online for a mistake, that it's given way more credence that it should. Like the world pretends that the opinions of a bunch of people on Twitter is meaningful, when most well adjusted people probably don't care or have better things to do.

The only way I can sleep at night (I'm being hyperbolic) is to remind myself that people online aren't what I assume. I assume often they're all more or less well adjusted, educated, normalish people...like me. When it's more likely that they're the opposite and that many are one step away from being Ted Bundy...so why should we care that those people don't like that somebody said x about 10 years ago...

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Ellen Kate Boyle's avatar

I swear we need to start a podcast or something - Conversations By The Exposition or something hahaha.

"But it’s not about trying to be a better person. It’s becoming our idea of a ‘good person’."

THIS is exactly what I was trying to get across today, too.

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